[RUME] Who should prepare H.S. math teachers?
Martin Tami Susan
tsmartin at ilstu.edu
Wed Mar 18 17:36:32 EDT 2009
Mathematics Teaching Today: Improving Practice, Improving Student
Learning (NCTM, 2007) is the revision of NCTM's 1991 Professional
Standards for Teaching Mathematics. Although the question of who
should teach content or methods courses is not explicitly addressed,
the chapter on teacher education and continued professional growth
addresses the types of experiences as well as the content that is
beneficial for preservice teachers. This chapter draws on the MET
report and other documents that address those issues.
Tami Martin
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:00 AM, rume-request at betterfilecabinet.com wrote:
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> From: Judy Sowder <jsowder at sciences.sdsu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [RUME] Who should prepare H.S. math teachers?
> To: "O'Malley, Thomas J." <OMALLETJ at muc.edu>,
> "rume at betterfilecabinet.com" <rume at betterfilecabinet.com>
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> Thomas, I don't know where you could find an answer to your question,
> but you might be interested in looking at "The Mathematical Education
> of Teachers" from CBMS (and MAA and AMS) published in 2000. (Every
> math dept in the country received a copy.)The sections there on
> secondary preparation for teachers focuses on what type of
> preparation they need to have, no matter where the courses are
> located.
>
> Judy Sowder
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> At 2:09 PM -0400 3/13/09, O'Malley, Thomas J. wrote:
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>> Does anyone have a reference to a written or oral statement from a
>> group such as NCATE, NCTM, MAA, or CBMS, or a state education
>> department concerning the desirability of having high school math
>> teachers being prepared by mathematics versus education faculty?
>>
>> This issue has come up at my school with both departments making a
>> good case on paper for their having control of this; each dept.
>> currently has one person with previous HS math teaching experience.
>> We are a small liberal arts college with a very crowded set of
>> requirements for future math teachers. For 80+ years we have had a
>> single content-plus-methods course for preparing HS math teachers
>> (there are separate content and methods courses for both elementary
>> and middle school math). There would be little tolerance for adding
>> to student loads by having separate H.S. content and methods
>> courses. The math dept teaches this course; its graduates have long
>> been praised as being the best prepared math teachers among those
>> from area colleges.
>>
>> Dr Thomas O'Malley
>> Mount Union College
>> 1972 Clark Avenue
>> Alliance, OH 44641
>> omalletj at muc.edu
>>
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> Judith T. Sowder
> Professor Emerita, Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> San Diego State University
> Center for Research in Mathematics and Science Education
> Alvarado Road Suite 206
> San Diego, CA 92120
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:21:46 -0400
> From: "Hill, Richard O." <hill at math.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [RUME] Who should prepare H.S. math teachers?
> To: "O'Malley, Thomas J." <OMALLETJ at muc.edu>,
> "rume at betterfilecabinet.com" <rume at betterfilecabinet.com>
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> Thomas,
>
> I do not quite understand your question. From your
> school's catalog, you seem to require a bachelor's degree in math,
> slightly modified for secondary ed majors. (This is common.) It is
> unclear what education courses are required. Here, it is similar
> and the math department oversees the math requirements; the college
> of ed oversees the ed requirements. It is difficult to get
> cooperation, which mostly is lived by both without any. Except,
> recently we have been developing a capstone course team taught by a
> mathematician and a math educator. (See my web site.) It is
> unclear what will eventually happen with this. Are you asking who
> should oversee your final course or the whole secondary math ed
> program?f
> The suggestion to look at MET is good.
>
> Richard Hill
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> bounces at betterfilecabinet.com] On Behalf Of O'Malley, Thomas J.
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> Subject: [RUME] Who should prepare H.S. math teachers?
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> Does anyone have a reference to a written or oral statement from a
> group such as NCATE, NCTM, MAA, or CBMS, or a state education
> department concerning the desirability of having high school math
> teachers being prepared by mathematics versus education faculty?
>
> This issue has come up at my school with both departments making a
> good case on paper for their having control of this; each dept.
> currently has one person with previous HS math teaching
> experience. We are a small liberal arts college with a very
> crowded set of requirements for future math teachers. For 80+
> years we have had a single content-plus-methods course for
> preparing HS math teachers (there are separate content and methods
> courses for both elementary and middle school math). There would
> be little tolerance for adding to student loads by having separate
> H.S. content and methods courses. The math dept teaches this
> course; its graduates have long been praised as being the best
> prepared math teachers among those from area colleges.
>
> Dr Thomas O'Malley
> Mount Union College
> 1972 Clark Avenue
> Alliance, OH 44641
> omalletj at muc.edu
>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:15:48 -0700
> From: Cathy Kessel <cbkessel at earthlink.net>
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> To: Judy Sowder <jsowder at sciences.sdsu.edu>
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> I was thinking of the MET Report also.
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> It can be downloaded from the web:
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> http://www.cbmsweb.org/MET_Document/index.htm
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> Cathy Kessel
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> On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Judy Sowder wrote:
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>> Thomas, I don't know where you could find an answer to your
>> question, but you might be interested in looking at "The
>> Mathematical Education of Teachers" from CBMS (and MAA and AMS)
>> published in 2000. (Every math dept in the country received a
>> copy.)The sections there on secondary preparation for teachers
>> focuses on what type of preparation they need to have, no matter
>> where the courses are located.
>>
>> Judy Sowder
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2:09 PM -0400 3/13/09, O'Malley, Thomas J. wrote:
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>>> Does anyone have a reference to a written or oral statement from a
>>> group such as NCATE, NCTM, MAA, or CBMS, or a state education
>>> department concerning the desirability of having high school math
>>> teachers being prepared by mathematics versus education faculty?
>>>
>>> This issue has come up at my school with both departments making a
>>> good case on paper for their having control of this; each dept.
>>> currently has one person with previous HS math teaching experience.
>>> We are a small liberal arts college with a very crowded set of
>>> requirements for future math teachers. For 80+ years we have had a
>>> single content-plus-methods course for preparing HS math teachers
>>> (there are separate content and methods courses for both elementary
>>> and middle school math). There would be little tolerance for
>>> adding to student loads by having separate H.S. content and methods
>>> courses. The math dept teaches this course; its graduates have
>>> long been praised as being the best prepared math teachers among
>>> those from area colleges.
>>>
>>> Dr Thomas O'Malley
>>> Mount Union College
>>> 1972 Clark Avenue
>>> Alliance, OH 44641
>>> omalletj at muc.edu
>>>
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>> Judith T. Sowder
>> Professor Emerita, Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> San Diego State University
>> Center for Research in Mathematics and Science Education
>> Alvarado Road Suite 206
>> San Diego, CA 92120
>>
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